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Post by Jacko on Mar 18, 2006 17:08:43 GMT
Allrite Lads! I love your stuff, its fuppin awesome, and im lookin forward to seein you in April. I've been scanning around but i couldnt find any of your songs tabbed up? Would it be possible to point me in the direction of some tabs (if there are any). Ta very much! Oh yeah, and just to be sure, you guys tune yourselves down to drop C# dont ya?
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Post by IAmAI on Mar 19, 2006 11:21:45 GMT
Afraid I can't help you with finding LSB tabs; I expect they're arn't any yet. Can I instead hijack your thread and start a discussion about guitar tabs? I'm curios to know what LSB think about them and guitar tab sites. We're hearing that the Music Publisher's Association want to shut down guitar tab sites and prosecute their owners. What do people think of this?
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Post by barrythief on Mar 20, 2006 7:53:00 GMT
I think that people who put up utterly wrong tabs that are then somehow shunted around the internet as the correct article should be shut down I use tabs as a lazy introduction to how to play the song, then improve the accuracy from the (generally hopelessly wrong) tabbed versions, and then do my best to play the song my own way the only bad thing i can see about a lot of the tab sites is that they're making money from all the advertising and crappy pop ups that they sell. someone should set up a free forum/site for tabs and then there wouldn't be so much of a problem. hmm...might be an idea...........the bandwidth costs would be atrocious tho
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Post by G on Mar 20, 2006 11:02:51 GMT
There's a great article on this in Guitarist this month.
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Post by G on Mar 20, 2006 11:03:38 GMT
....and yeah, dropped C# it is.
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Post by Jacko on Mar 20, 2006 17:28:27 GMT
....and yeah, dropped C# it is. Dankeshan! I'm in full agreement that incorrect tabs should be banished, burnt, whatever. Im just the sorta person who likes to know that what i'm playing is right. I'm also lazy as well. I just hate it when i get stuck on a part of a song that i have no idea to work out, thats when tabs are useful for me. Its that feeling you get when your missing the last piece of the puzzle, or when your trying to fix something, and in the end you just give up. Thats my persona.
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Post by IAmAI on Mar 21, 2006 8:51:31 GMT
I think that people who put up utterly wrong tabs that are then somehow shunted around the internet as the correct article should be shut down I think if that tab isn't accurate, this doesn't happen - only the accurate and well written tabs prevail. I think tab sites are excellent and have a right to remain! If someone went to the trouble of tabbing out a song by ear, how can one equate this to stealing and forbid them from distribution it? Well, I had the idea of a Wiki based tab site. If you read the article on the concept of Wiki, you would see how it would be very different to current tabs sites. I believe a Wiki based tab site would improve the accuracy of tabs over time. In addition, the Wiki based encyclopedia, Wikipedia doesn't have adverts
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Post by G on Mar 21, 2006 11:32:35 GMT
I think the reason that people have a problem with free tab is that it is, legally speaking, a reproduction of a piece of music in the same way that a recording is. This stems from the days before the gramaphone, when the only way music could be distributed was as sheet music, for which the artist would get paid royalties. People would have a collection of sheet music where today they would collect recorded music. Now, the problem we have today, is that recorded music is king, and transcribed music is a relatively minor part of the proceedings, although it retains it's legal status as something that the artist should be paid for. It's tough to argue that artists shouldn't get paid for all those tab books you see in your music shop. You could argue that someone on the web, publishing tab that they've worked out for themselves, is only as bad as a band recording a cover of one of their favourite tracks - you don't need to pay anyone to do that, because the finished product isn't the same as the original recording. The problem with tab is that, if it's done correctly (and that's a big IF;), then what you're publishing is EXACTLY the same as the original and official transcription (whether one physically exists or not) - it's the same way that, in making an exact copy of the binary 0s and 1s stored on a CD, you are ending up with an exact copy of a piece of music, so I guess you could argue that this is then a violation of the rights of the artist to recieve a royalty for what is essentially an illegal reproduction of their work. OK, so that's the legal stance - personally, I don't really agree with it, or at least whilst I can't argue with it, I have no problem with people ignoring it. As a self taught guitarist, I couldn't've done it without a bit of tab courtesy of the numerous guitar mags I used to bury my head in, and I guess if i'd been on the interweb then as much as I am nowadays, i'd've been Googling for it non stop to feed my addiction... and at the end of the day, in my experience almost 100% of online home made tab is just plain WRONG, and without it being some kind of official product (tab book, guitar magazines, legal tab download) there's just no way of knowing if you've got it right, because on a guitar, there are always several different ways of skinning the same cat. I guess you pay for the privelige of knowing that you're skinning the right cat in the right way.... and maybe that's worth paying for? Once again, that's a lot of ranting with no discernable conclusion
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Post by mike on Mar 21, 2006 16:52:39 GMT
Even tab books are sometimes wrong, I've got one (can't remember what) where it's written in the tab book in standard tuning and I know it's played in drop D. That's even more annoying. The people writing the tab often don't have access to the artists.
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Post by barrythief on Mar 21, 2006 21:45:54 GMT
Even tab books are sometimes wrong, I've got one (can't remember what) where it's written in the tab book in standard tuning and I know it's played in drop D. That's even more annoying. The people writing the tab often don't have access to the artists. my old guitar teacher told me that tab books are quite often transcribed by pianists into standard notation, and then appropriated into tab foolish
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Post by barrythief on Mar 21, 2006 21:51:30 GMT
I think if that tab isn't accurate, this doesn't happen - only the accurate and well written tabs prevail. you think? the amount of tabs you find with the preamble "This is my first tab, hope it's ok" spread across the entire internet is astounding. I'd go so far as saying that I have never found a completly correct tab for anything more complex than simple chord/lyric charts. except for feeder stuff, if you want any song by them then type "Feeder tab alex ball" into google - that man is an utter geek when it comes to their songs+a musical genius to boot, so it's pretty much guaranteed to be correct
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Post by IAmAI on Mar 23, 2006 10:15:06 GMT
you think? the amount of tabs you find with the preamble "This is my first tab, hope it's ok" spread across the entire internet is astounding. Well, yeah, you get tabs like that all the time. However, I'm sure that like you, most tab readers are able to determine the accuracy of tabs. Poorly written tabs get reject and rate poorly, just as what happens with most things of poor quality in life. The bottom line there is often great and accurate tabs out there - some people are really good at it.
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Post by siraprry on Dec 19, 2006 21:06:24 GMT
any ideas if any songs have been tabbed yet? ive tried working out many songs myself but have pretty much got nowhere. even a little direction to working them out myself would be good haha, thanks in advance any help with clout in particular would be good
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Post by barrythief on Dec 20, 2006 13:37:37 GMT
have you been drop tuning? cos that'd help some...........
i believe the LSB axes are locked in to Drop D, then the whole guitar tuned down half a step
so C#/Ab/C#/F#/Bb/Eb
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Post by G on Dec 29, 2006 12:27:41 GMT
Funnily enough, the 2 most important chords in the whole of Clout are also my 2 favourite chords on the guitar (this marks me down as either a philosophical minimalist, or a musically retarded. I like to think that i'm the former, whereas the rest of the band would argue that i'm the latter ). I like riffs to be as simple as they are effective. Tabbed out I guess they'd look like: My favourite chord 1 Palm muted Eb--------------------- Bb---------------------- F#---------------------- C#----------0------------ Ab----------0----------- C#----------0----------- My favourite chord 2 Not muted Eb--------------------- Bb---------------------- F#---------------------- C#----------0------------ Ab----------0----------- C#----------0----------- Add in a bit of messing around with the 1st and 3rd frets on the bottom (C#) and 5th (Ab) strings: Eb------------------------------------------ Bb------------------------------------------- F#------------------------------------------- C#------------------------------------------- Ab---------------3----------3--h--5--------- C#---3--h--5--------5--------------------0- (where h is a hammer-on) and there you go - a quick guide to the Clout riff. If tab was a bit less time consuming to type out i'd've probably been able to have been a bit more specific, but...um.... working it out's half the fun, right? Oh, and Merry Xmas, Happy New Year etc.
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